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Article 21059
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 00:32:42 GMT
Subject: movie: Spider-Man
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

So, _Spider-Man_ was one that I resolved I wasn't going to wait to
see.  I've been a comics fan for a looong time, and while I really
don't like most Marvel Comics, I've always liked Spider-Man.

This was a *good* movie.  I had a few quibble points, but I'm curious
to see what the adaptation novel has to say.  My quibbles are mostly
things that they probably couldn't show in the interest of time.

I told Christine that this was one of the few movies that -made me
believe-.

I think at least 60 million in receipts for the 3-day-weekend, based
on the amount of people at our local googleplex.

I'll be willing to discuss nits, but if we do, let's start a spoiler
thread.

JT

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Article 21060
From: CSTilden@yahoo.com (Christine Simoes Tilden)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 01:15:09 GMT
Subject: Re: movie: Spider-Man
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I agree! Great movie!!




On Mon, 06 May 2002 00:32:42 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:

>So, _Spider-Man_ was one that I resolved I wasn't going to wait to
>see.  I've been a comics fan for a looong time, and while I really
>don't like most Marvel Comics, I've always liked Spider-Man.
>
>This was a *good* movie.  I had a few quibble points, but I'm curious
>to see what the adaptation novel has to say.  My quibbles are mostly
>things that they probably couldn't show in the interest of time.
>
>I told Christine that this was one of the few movies that -made me
>believe-.
>
>I think at least 60 million in receipts for the 3-day-weekend, based
>on the amount of people at our local googleplex.
>
>I'll be willing to discuss nits, but if we do, let's start a spoiler
>thread.
>
>JT

Christine Simoes Tilden


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Article 21061
From: Gordon G. Sollars 
Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 21:37:26 -0400
Subject: Re: movie: Spider-Man
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

In article <3cd5ce1b.32118484@news.sff.net>, JT writes...
> So, _Spider-Man_ was one that I resolved I wasn't going to wait to
> see.  I've been a comics fan for a looong time, and while I really
> don't like most Marvel Comics, I've always liked Spider-Man.

Well, I am an old comics fan who has not read one in a looong time.  
OTOH, I was a big Marvel fan.
 
> This was a *good* movie.

I agree.  I had heard a lukewarm review, but Linda wanted to see a movie 
as soon as she got home, and Spiderman fit our schedule best.  I 
concluded that the reviewer was not a comics fan.  I especially liked the 
way that certain "classic" Spiderman panels were worked in.

>  I had a few quibble points, but I'm curious
> to see what the adaptation novel has to say.  My quibbles are mostly
> things that they probably couldn't show in the interest of time.

Really?  One criticism I had heard was how long it took to get to 
Spiderman actually fighting the bad guys.  What did you think was 
missing?

-- 
Gordon Sollars
gsollars@pobox.com

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Article 21062
From: Teresa Redmond 
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:19:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

On Wed, 01 May 2002 22:14:51 -0400, in sff.discuss.heinlein-forum, Ed
Johnson <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > quoth:

I know I've only been here a short time, but please know that I grieve
with you, and I hold you in my heart.

-- 
~teresa~

 ^..^    "Never try to outstubborn a cat."  Robert A. Heinlein    ^..^
  http://www.heinleinsociety.org/ & http://rahbooks.virtualave.net/
 "Blert!!!"  quoth Pixel, a small, yellow cat.
  email me at pixelmeow at aol dot com or yahoo dot com
  MSN messenger ID = pixelmeow@passport.com
  Yahoo Messenger ID = pixelmeow@yahoo.com
  AIM id = pixelmeow

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Article 21063
From: Eli Hestermann 
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 14:40:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Neal Stephenson
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Les wrote:

> Eli,
>
>   Is Snow Crash the one that opens with that crazy pizza delivery
> driver?  I thought that was a pretty fun book too.  OTOH,
> Cryptonomicron was WAY TOO LONG!  I enjoyed reading it, but I thought
> it went on and on about some things.  Like the whole beard thesis.
> Where did that come from?

I got _Cryptonomicon_ and _Diamond Age_ from the library and am reading the
first one.  The beard thesis was (admittedly unnecessary) characterization
of Randy's girlfriend.  If you've been around that academic type, it's a
very humorous sendup of what they talk about.

The part I had to skip was the bit about the bad bicycle chain on Turing's
bike and its relationship to Enigma.  Too much infodump, and without the
warnings that some authors use (ferex Heinlein and ballistics in TCWWTW).

--
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa."  -Seneca



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Article 21064
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 16:20:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Audrey, Teresa, Beth, Christine (et al)  
       Thank you so much for your kind and sympathetic words; they
mean so very much to me at this time.  
 I just wanted to take a quick moment to remind you all about
regular medical checkups, annual mamograms and monthly self-exams.
Most of the progress made in saving lives from Cancer has been made
for cases following early detection.  Having been intimately
involved in the battle against breast cancer these past 23 months, I
urge all women to get their checkups and to do it for those who love
you if not for yourselves.

Ed

On Sat, 04 May 2002 12:38:40 -0700, Audrey <agifford@bridgesbls.com>
wrote:

>I am so sorry. You are in my prayers.
>
>Ed Johnson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
>> <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Ed--
>> >     I can't begin to express how sorry I am to hear this and I wish you
>> >all the luck and prayers I have available.
>> Thanks for your kind words, Charlie.
>>
>> To all my good Heinlein friends:
>> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
>>
>> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
>> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
>> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
>> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas.  Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
>> graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
>> the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
>> for the Mid Atlantic Region.  Encouraged by the love of her husband
>> and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
>> adversity was an inspiration to all.  Other women facing the battle
>> should embrace her courage.
>>             She is survived by her devoted husband Edward L. Johnson
>> her parents   <snip: list of parents and five siblings and their
>> families, funeral home, viewing time and mass of christian burial,
>> etc. etc>
>> In lieu of flowers  contributions in her memory may be made to the
>> Maxmin Memorial Fund, Room C223, Fox Chase Cancer, 7701 Burholme
>> Ave, Phila.,PA, 19111 or
>> Cancer Research Foundation of North Texas, 900 West Randol Mill
>> Rd.,Suite 204, Arlington, Texas 76012
>>
>> ***********************************************
>> Few cobbers got to meet Sue:  JT and Christine, `rita, bytor and
>> Julie Caligaro.
>>
>> Ed J


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Article 21065
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:55:53 GMT
Subject: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

What a blast, for all true believers.

About the only thing wrong, was that MaryJane didn't have any boots in
the whole flic.

I thought that even tho updated, they were amazingly close to how
things were in the first couple issues of the comic. The feel & story
were truly remeniscent of the original.

Fader

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Article 21066
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 23:19:20 GMT
Subject: Re: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Definitely spoilers in mine, folks.

..
..
..
..
..

On Mon, 06 May 2002 22:55:53 GMT, fader555@aol.com (Fader) wrote:

>What a blast, for all true believers.
>
>About the only thing wrong, was that MaryJane didn't have any boots in
>the whole flic.

Yes, she did.  I forget which part, but there was a scene of her
walking away where she's got thigh-length boots on.

>I thought that even tho updated, they were amazingly close to how
>things were in the first couple issues of the comic. The feel & story
>were truly remeniscent of the original.
>
Agreed.  I went online last night and found that they were selling the
adaptation novel in Reader format on Amazon.  So I bought it.  It's by
Peter David, which is generally a mark of a good high quality read.

So far, no disappointment, and the novel fleshes out many of the
things I "nitpicked".  

--what's his physical cost?  The book clears up that he now has a
ravenous appetite to fuel the abilities.
--how does he stick through shoes?  He doesn't, he sticks through the
hands and uses the feet mostly for balance, although if he were
shoeless he could use them too.
--Something the book hasn't addressed yet is the costume.  I was
hoping to see that most of the money "went into space-age fabric that
allowed my spider-grip to come through the gloves, etc."

Anyway, those are pretty small nits.  I loved the webslinging
sequences, J. Jonah was the comic come to life, and I think Tobey
Maguire did an excellent job of the 'nerd coming into his own'.

This movie did a good job of capturing NYC also.  I must admit to
looking out for the WTC in the background.

This will be a great DVD.  Apparently filming on the next one starts
in January.

I went back and reread the original Origin story, which I hadn't done
in probably 15 years.  The movie is amazingly faithful to the story.

--JT

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Article 21067
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 23:41:28 -0500
Subject: Re: movie: Spider-Man
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

All--
     I enjoyed the movie greatly, and, according to AOL, it cleared in
excess of $114 million this past weekend.  You're a pessimist, JT.
(TFIC)

--
<<Big Charlie>>

Dogs have masters; cats have staff.



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Article 21068
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:34:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

I second Ed's urging for all of us females over 40 (and some of us under 40)
to get annual mammograms.  I had a lump a few years ago that would have been
10 times as large before I would have found it during my self exams.  My
lump was benign but they found it at the 4 to 10 mm size (a petit pois) not
40 mm or larger (a small marble.)

While we're at it.  Don't forget that other annual exam all women over 18
are supposed to get every year.  My GYN says the main reason I still have
that equipment is because I put up with those cold speculums and went in for
treatment when the results weren't normal.

The two most preventable women's cancers and women still die because they
don't take time for their annual exams.

Guys aren't off the hook.  Over 50 or near it?  Bend over first and get your
PSA<?> checked second.

All of us over 50 and those of over 40 with a family history should get
colonoscopies.

Russell's sister-in-law lost her battle with pancreatic cancer in February.
That kind of cancer is one that comes from no where and is hard to treat
early detection or not.  Breast, Cervical, Prostate, and Colon cancers are
easy to detect, easy to treat, and very survivable if caught early enough.
Do us all a favor and get tested.  We'd miss you even as we signed off on
your Darwin Award nomination. <sad evil grin>
--
`rita
Live from Finley, WA.  Erin's due date May 17 -- I'm toooo young to be
Granny!



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Article 21069
From: Dee" 
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 06:44:46 -0500
Subject: Re: movie: Spider-Man
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

    Joe & I treid to go to _Spiderman_ Sunday, but they were not selling
tickets because the electrical transformer ahd gone out and they weren't
sure how long the City would take to repair it--they were not yet even sure
whether it was the transformer itself or just a fuse.  So we went to
"Adventureland" and played miniature golf, instead.  (I wanted to try out
the bungee dragsters, but there was no one taking tickets and operating.)
    I will avoid the "Spoilers" thread for the time being.  We will probably
try again this Sunday.

--Dee

"Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3CD75AF8.868B2751@aol.com...
> All--
>      I enjoyed the movie greatly, and, according to AOL, it cleared in
> excess of $114 million this past weekend.  You're a pessimist, JT.
> (TFIC)
>
> --
> <<Big Charlie>>
>
> Dogs have masters; cats have staff.
>
>
>



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Article 21070
From: Gordon G. Sollars 
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:11:40 -0400
Subject: Re: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

In article <3cd70c32.113548750@news.sff.net>, JT writes...

> I loved the webslinging
> sequences, J. Jonah was the comic come to life, 

I agree completely.  Who played Jameson?  I forgot to check the credits.

-- 
Gordon Sollars
gsollars@pobox.com

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Article 21071
From: Ed Johnson 
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 11:34:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

`rita:  Thanks for expanding on that.
I promised my wife when she was in the Hospital that I would get my
annual Prostate test and PSA screening. 
I lost my dad to Prostate cancer and my mom to Pancreatic cancer.
Now breast cancer has taken the light of my life.  I thank God for
the time we had together.
All:  heed rita's advice:  You owe it to more than just yourself to
get early screening.

Ed J

On Mon, 6 May 2002 17:34:54 -0700, "Lorrita Morgan"
<lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I second Ed's urging for all of us females over 40 (and some of us under 40)
>to get annual mammograms.  I had a lump a few years ago that would have been
>10 times as large before I would have found it during my self exams.  My
>lump was benign but they found it at the 4 to 10 mm size (a petit pois) not
>40 mm or larger (a small marble.)
>
>While we're at it.  Don't forget that other annual exam all women over 18
>are supposed to get every year.  My GYN says the main reason I still have
>that equipment is because I put up with those cold speculums and went in for
>treatment when the results weren't normal.
>
>The two most preventable women's cancers and women still die because they
>don't take time for their annual exams.
>
>Guys aren't off the hook.  Over 50 or near it?  Bend over first and get your
>PSA<?> checked second.
>
>All of us over 50 and those of over 40 with a family history should get
>colonoscopies.
>
>Russell's sister-in-law lost her battle with pancreatic cancer in February.
>That kind of cancer is one that comes from no where and is hard to treat
>early detection or not.  Breast, Cervical, Prostate, and Colon cancers are
>easy to detect, easy to treat, and very survivable if caught early enough.
>Do us all a favor and get tested.  We'd miss you even as we signed off on
>your Darwin Award nomination. <sad evil grin>


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Article 21072
From: Voxwoman 
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 15:20:01 -0400
Subject: Re: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

spolre spce

..,
..
..
..
..
,
..
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,
,


> 
> This movie did a good job of capturing NYC also.  I must admit to
> looking out for the WTC in the background.


I figured they painted it out of the one shot aimed downtown.


> 
> This will be a great DVD.  Apparently filming on the next one starts
> in January.


kewl. This was a fun ride. I didn't get into the comic book (not much 
for graphic novels, myself) but I loved the saturday morning cartoon 
when I was a wee one.
-Wendy


> 
> I went back and reread the original Origin story, which I hadn't done
> in probably 15 years.  The movie is amazingly faithful to the story.
> 
> --JT
> 


-- 
----------
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http://www.musicforthegoddess.com


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Article 21073
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 02:58:25 -0400
Subject: Re: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum



"JT" <JT@REM0VE.sff.net> wrote in message
news:<3cd70c32.113548750@news.sff.net>...
> Definitely spoilers in mine, folks.
>
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
>
> On Mon, 06 May 2002 22:55:53 GMT, fader555@aol.com (Fader) wrote:
>
> >What a blast, for all true believers.
> >
> >About the only thing wrong, was that MaryJane didn't have any boots in
> >the whole flic.
>
> Yes, she did.  I forget which part, but there was a scene of her
> walking away where she's got thigh-length boots on.
>

Kirsten Dunst walking away in thigh-high boots? Ok, I'll go see it!

WJaKe

<letting his inner 16 year-old out!>






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Article 21074
From: Gordon G. Sollars 
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 17:42:27 -0400
Subject: Re: What Quibbles ?? Spoiler (was movie: Spiderman)
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

In article <3cd8cb1e.0@news.sff.net>, William J. Keaton writes...
....
> Kirsten Dunst walking away in thigh-high boots? Ok, I'll go see it!
> 
> WJaKe
> 
> <letting his inner 16 year-old out!>

It could just as easily have been your inner 50-year old, if you have 
one.

-- 
Gordon Sollars
gsollars@pobox.com

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Article 21075
From: Charles Graft 
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:44:39 -0500
Subject: lOCATING. . .
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

All--

    Anyone have Karen Cottrell's E-Mail address?  The one I have for her
seems to no longer be good.

--
<<Big Charlie>>

Dogs have masters; cats have staff.



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Article 21076
From: William J. Keaton" 
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:14:24 -0400
Subject: Larry Hinzman?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Anyone recognize the name Larry Hinzman? Apparently, I'm in his AIM buddy
list, which his granddaughter was going through today. Suffering from CRS
myself, so I can't place the name. Best guess is from an AIM Heinlein chat,
but I don't know.

WJaKe



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Article 21077
From: David Silver 
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 17:10:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Larry Hinzman?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

William J. Keaton wrote:

> Anyone recognize the name Larry Hinzman? Apparently, I'm in his AIM buddy
> list, which his granddaughter was going through today. Suffering from CRS
> myself, so I can't place the name. Best guess is from an AIM Heinlein chat,
> but I don't know.
> 
> WJaKe
> 
> 
> 

Not an AIM Heinlein group name I recall, Jake.

David


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Article 21078
From: noone" 
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:40:40 -0400
Subject: Re: To those who've been around here long enuf to care...
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

 the comments here remind me of the "gun control debate" in several ways,
as well the "war on drugs" and the failed "great experiment" post ww1, and
my own experience with two kids and a grand daughter. if you want to make
sure something is wanted just try to forbid it. i'd amend big charlie's
statement to "this or any other technology" and see the current situation in
britain and australia for proof of the statement in his paragraph below.
"gunner"
----------------------
"Charles Graft" <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3CC4E67C.E4C7DB9A@aol.com...
> Jai--
>      The legal prohibition of this technology was a waste of time.  The
> criminals who perceive the need for any prohibited technology are quite
> capable of  stealing, duplicating, or smuggling it as necessary.  Or
> hiring  their own code experts to come up with a version.
>
>      To quote RAH:  "Prohibition hs never worked."  Our borders are a
> joke; "prohibiting" exports is a much bigger one.
>
> --
> <<Big Charlie>>
>
> Dogs have masters; cats have staff.
>
>



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Article 21079
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:58:50 -0700
Subject: Contest!?!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

OK call it cleaning the house to make room for the  new grandson.

I have several boxes of pulps in various conditions.  The Asimov's,
Analog's, F&SF, etc. from the '80s and later were read once or twice and
stored lovingly.  There are also copies of Galaxy, IF, Astounding, and a few
others that were defunct by 1980 that vary from poor to very good.  The
oldest issue is from 194?.

Here's the contest:  The person who comes closest to guessing our grandson's
birth date, time, and weight gets everything prior to 1970.  (including at
least one Heinlein issue!)  Runners up get to choose by title -- closest
first.  (length is the tie breaker)

Hints:
First baby
Due date is May 17 (She was 2 days early, her sister who was the first baby
was three weeks late.)
She's only gained 30 pounds.
She weighed 6 lbs. 13 oz.  Dad 9 lbs 9 oz.  (All grandparents are in that
range)

We will pay postage in the US only.
Enter by email.  Contest ends when grandson is born.

--
`rita Just
Frustrated
Insecure
Neurotic and
Emotional in Finley, WA



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Article 21080
From: David Wright" 
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:49:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Larry Hinzman?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"David Silver" <ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3CDF0488.1010901@verizon.net...
> William J. Keaton wrote:
>
> > Anyone recognize the name Larry Hinzman? Apparently, I'm in his AIM
buddy
> > list, which his granddaughter was going through today. Suffering from
CRS
> > myself, so I can't place the name. Best guess is from an AIM Heinlein
chat,
> > but I don't know.
> >
> > WJaKe
> >
> >
> >
>
> Not an AIM Heinlein group name I recall, Jake.
>
> David
>
I have kept track of all names on Heinlein AIM chats since I started
archiving and do not recognize the name. However, the 'buddy name' list
doesn't always reflect actual names. I don't recall anyone identifying
themselves as Larry

David Wright



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Article 21081
From: David Silver 
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:20:45 -0700
Subject: Re: Larry Hinzman?
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

David Wright wrote:

> "David Silver" <ag.plusone@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3CDF0488.1010901@verizon.net...
> 
>>William J. Keaton wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone recognize the name Larry Hinzman? Apparently, I'm in his AIM
>>>
> buddy
> 
>>>list, which his granddaughter was going through today. Suffering from
>>>
> CRS
> 
>>>myself, so I can't place the name. Best guess is from an AIM Heinlein
>>>
> chat,
> 
>>>but I don't know.
>>>
>>>WJaKe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Not an AIM Heinlein group name I recall, Jake.
>>
>>David
>>
>>
> I have kept track of all names on Heinlein AIM chats since I started
> archiving and do not recognize the name. However, the 'buddy name' list
> doesn't always reflect actual names. I don't recall anyone identifying
> themselves as Larry
> 
> David Wright
> 
> 
> 

We did once have a Larry Studer (lstuder@aol.com) on the old AOL chat 
side; and he occasionally shows up on afh; but, with that exception, 
like Dave Wright I cannot remember any other Larry.

David Silver


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Article 21082
From: David Silver 
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:31:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Contest!?!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

Lorrita Morgan wrote:

> OK call it cleaning the house to make room for the  new grandson.
> 
> I have several boxes of pulps in various conditions.  The Asimov's,
> Analog's, F&SF, etc. from the '80s and later were read once or twice and
> stored lovingly.  There are also copies of Galaxy, IF, Astounding, and a few
> others that were defunct by 1980 that vary from poor to very good.  The
> oldest issue is from 194?.
> 
> Here's the contest:  The person who comes closest to guessing our grandson's
> birth date, time, and weight gets everything prior to 1970.  (including at
> least one Heinlein issue!)  Runners up get to choose by title -- closest
> first.  (length is the tie breaker)
> 
> Hints:
> First baby
> Due date is May 17 (She was 2 days early, her sister who was the first baby
> was three weeks late.)
> She's only gained 30 pounds.
> She weighed 6 lbs. 13 oz.  Dad 9 lbs 9 oz.  (All grandparents are in that
> range)
> 
> We will pay postage in the US only.
> Enter by email.  Contest ends when grandson is born.
> 


You should hear my wife snickering, 'rita. Her comments: "First baby? 
He'll come when he wants to come."

Date: May 20th. Time: 3:00 A.M. 6 lbs., 14 oz. Length: 20 inches.

LOL! Be a happy grandmother, 'rita!

David Silver



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Article 21083
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:13:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Contest!?!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

BTW, for Christine and other mystery fans; I'm also looking for new homes
for several years worth of Alfred Hitchcock and Ellery Queen Mystery
Magazines.  These are mostly from the 1980s.  (Before the girls hit their
teen years we had so disposable income.)

--
`rita
Am I alive in Finley, WA?
(Never argue with a pregnant daughter!)



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Article 21084
From: Robert Slater" 
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:53:30 -0700
Subject: Re: Contest!?!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

May 18.  6 lbs. 7 oz. 21 in.
SIFI Rob
Over here in Bellingham, WA.



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Article 21085
From: kevin mcgillicuddy" 
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:45:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Contest!?!
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum


"Lorrita Morgan" <lorrita-m@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:3cdf3a0c.0@news.sff.net...
> OK call it cleaning the house to make room for the  new grandson.
>
>snip>
>
> --
> `rita Just
> Frustrated
> Insecure
> Neurotic and
> Emotional in Finley, WA
>

Date: May 23rd. Time: 6:25 A.M. 8 lbs., 0 oz. Length: 21 inches.

McKevin
And do we get to name the baby as well?  I think "Kevin" has a nice ring.
<g>




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Article 21086
From: Lorrita Morgan" 
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:49:48 -0700
Subject: Humor
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum

AMISH VIRUS:

 You have just received the Amish Virus. Since we do not have
electricity nor computers, you are on the honor system. Please delete
all of your files.

 Thank thee.




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