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Article 21036
From: les@vrolyk.org (Les)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:11:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Neal Stephenson
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:42:41 -0400, Bill Dauphin
<dauphinb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>_Earth Made of Glass_ is depressing... but every bit as well crafted and
>compelling as AMOD. I haven't picked up the new one yet, but it's on my birthday
>list (along with _The Free Lunch_ by Spider). I wonder if anyone here has read it,
>and has anything to say (w/o, of course, spoiling it for the rest of us).
>
>-JovBill
>
I don't think you wanted reviews of The Free Lunch, but I picked it up
at the library a few weeks ago and enjoyed it very much. Fun!
Les
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Article 21037
From: les@vrolyk.org (Les)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:13:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Neal Stephenson
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Eli,
Is Snow Crash the one that opens with that crazy pizza delivery
driver? I thought that was a pretty fun book too. OTOH,
Cryptonomicron was WAY TOO LONG! I enjoyed reading it, but I thought
it went on and on about some things. Like the whole beard thesis.
Where did that come from?
Les
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:31:36 -0400, Eli Hestermann
<ehestermann@tmlp.com> wrote:
>Anybody else here read Neal Stephenson? Fader gave me _Zodiac_ many
>moons ago at a Gathering, and it recently percolated to the top of my
>"to read" pile. It's about an environmentalist dealing with big time
>pollution in Boston Harbor (and thus right up my alley). It's more
>thriller than sf, but I really enjoyed it. The science was pretty well
>done (just a few quibbles, but no howlers).
>
>Then, on vacation a couple weeks ago, I needed a book at the airport and
>found _Snow Crash_. This one is simply fantastic, IMNSHO. It has a
>great cyberpunk dystopia society, memorable characters, a plot that
>flies along, and some good humor. I'm looking forward to getting the
>rest of his stuff now.
>
>--
>Eli V. Hestermann
>ehestermann@whoi.edu
>"Vita brevis est, ars longa" - Seneca
>
>
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Article 21038
From: Eli Hestermann
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 06:29:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Neal Stephenson
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Les wrote:
> Eli,
>
> Is Snow Crash the one that opens with that crazy pizza delivery
> driver? I thought that was a pretty fun book too.
That's the one.
> OTOH,
> Cryptonomicron was WAY TOO LONG! I enjoyed reading it, but I thought
> it went on and on about some things. Like the whole beard thesis.
> Where did that come from?
The library's holding that one for me, so I'll have to answer this later. [g]
--
Eli V. Hestermann
ehestermann@tmlp.com
"Vita brevis est, ars longa" - Seneca
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Article 21039
From: Steve Dee"
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:59:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Universe as in "Orphans
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Hmm...I thought it was always a nice story....and very well put together.
Perhaps you are trying to read too much into it?
<rkaderli@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3cc45982.0@news.sff.net...
> Just reread Orphans of the Sky after 30 years . I admit to rereading and
> teaching Universe as a short story last decade. Now in terms of Semantics
> and speculative fiction I think it still holds water.You know; language
> equaling rationalizations equaling world view. Part two is rather a
different
> critter. Anyone know why the two parts seem dissimilar in construction.
> The first story is very tight and prescient while part II just finishes
> the story and seems preachy in the narrative. Not that it isn't well
written
> or exciting juvenile fiction. But the weird female component and the
Adam--Eve
> thing, sheesh. What makes it possible to eat raw squirrel things on alien
> planets anyway?
> Kaderli
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Article 21040
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:14:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
<chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>Ed--
> I can't begin to express how sorry I am to hear this and I wish you
>all the luck and prayers I have available.
Thanks for your kind words, Charlie.
To all my good Heinlein friends:
My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
Hospital, in Arlington, Texas. Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
for the Mid Atlantic Region. Encouraged by the love of her husband
and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
adversity was an inspiration to all. Other women facing the battle
should embrace her courage.
She is survived by her devoted husband Edward L. Johnson
her parents <snip: list of parents and five siblings and their
families, funeral home, viewing time and mass of christian burial,
etc. etc>
In lieu of flowers contributions in her memory may be made to the
Maxmin Memorial Fund, Room C223, Fox Chase Cancer, 7701 Burholme
Ave, Phila.,PA, 19111 or
Cancer Research Foundation of North Texas, 900 West Randol Mill
Rd.,Suite 204, Arlington, Texas 76012
***********************************************
Few cobbers got to meet Sue: JT and Christine, `rita, bytor and
Julie Caligaro.
Ed J
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Article 21041
From: SpaceCadet
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 21:30:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Ed,
My heart goes out to you. <hugs...tears...hugs again>
Carol
Ed Johnson wrote:
>
> To all my good Heinlein friends:
> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers...
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Article 21042
From: debrule@dahoudek.com (Deb Houdek Rule)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 05:35:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
>
>To all my good Heinlein friends:
>My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
So sorry to heard it, Ed. Our sympathies.
Deb (D.A. Houdek)
http://www.dahoudek.com
http://www.civilwarstlouis.com
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Article 21043
From: Dee"
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 06:18:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Oh, Ed, I am so sorry. I wish I had known Sue Ellen--she sounds like a very
special person. You are in my heart this day.
--Dee
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Article 21044
From: Eli Hestermann
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:01:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Dee wrote:
> Oh, Ed, I am so sorry. I wish I had known Sue Ellen--she sounds like a very
> special person. You are in my heart this day.
>
> --Dee
Likewise, Ed.
We're doing the best we can to beat this thing.
--
Eli V. Hestermann
Eli_Hestermann@dfci.harvard.edu
"Vita brevis est, ars longa." -Seneca
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Article 21045
From: hf_jai@prodigy.net (Jai Johnson-Pickett)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 15:43:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, Ed.
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Article 21046
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:34:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
On Thu, 02 May 2002 15:43:23 GMT, hf_jai@prodigy.net (Jai
Johnson-Pickett) wrote:
>I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, Ed.
Thank you, thank you all.
(Eli: I what it means coming from you. thanks for you and people
like you: don't give up until you win for all of us)
Ed
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Article 21047
From: David Silver
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:15:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Ed Johnson wrote:
>
> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas. Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
> graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
> the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
> for the Mid Atlantic Region. Encouraged by the love of her husband
> and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
> adversity was an inspiration to all. Other women facing the battle
> should embrace her courage.
May the perpetual light shine upon her and may she rest in peace.
Our best wishes, Ed.
David
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Article 21048
From: Jane Davitt
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:23:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Just saw your post Ed. I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for
sharing Sue's story. She must have been a very brave and special lady.
Jane
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Article 21049
From: David Wright"
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:51:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote in message
news:o471dug57eke7pleptk5jb209ebumabedo@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
> <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>
May her memory be eternal.
David Paul Wright
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Article 21050
From: Filksinger"
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:23:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Ed, my sincerest condolences on your loss. My prayers are with you and your
family.
Other than that, I can only offer this. When you remember her, if you see
yourself in your rememberances, imagine that you are entering your own body
in the rememberances, and look upon her from within yourself. Seeing
yourself with her will emphasize the loss, seeing her from the point of view
of being with her will bring peace.
Filksinger
AKA David Nasset, Sr.
Ed Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
> <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Ed--
>> I can't begin to express how sorry I am to hear this and I wish
>> you all the luck and prayers I have available. Thanks for your kind
>> words, Charlie.
>
> To all my good Heinlein friends:
> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
>
> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas. Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
> graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
> the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
> for the Mid Atlantic Region. Encouraged by the love of her husband
> and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
> adversity was an inspiration to all. Other women facing the battle
> should embrace her courage.
> She is survived by her devoted husband Edward L. Johnson
> her parents <snip: list of parents and five siblings and their
> families, funeral home, viewing time and mass of christian burial,
> etc. etc>
> In lieu of flowers contributions in her memory may be made to the
> Maxmin Memorial Fund, Room C223, Fox Chase Cancer, 7701 Burholme
> Ave, Phila.,PA, 19111 or
> Cancer Research Foundation of North Texas, 900 West Randol Mill
> Rd.,Suite 204, Arlington, Texas 76012
>
> ***********************************************
> Few cobbers got to meet Sue: JT and Christine, `rita, bytor and
> Julie Caligaro.
>
> Ed J
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Article 21051
From: Gordon G. Sollars
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:24:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
In article <o471dug57eke7pleptk5jb209ebumabedo@4ax.com>, Ed Johnson
writes...
I am very saddened to learn this, Ed. You have my deepest sympathies.
--
Gordon Sollars
gsollars@pobox.com
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Article 21052
From: Voxwoman
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:13:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
hugs from me, too (even tho I'm a stranger)
-Wendy of NJ
Ed Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
> <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Ed--
>> I can't begin to express how sorry I am to hear this and I wish you
>>all the luck and prayers I have available.
>>
> Thanks for your kind words, Charlie.
>
> To all my good Heinlein friends:
> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
>
> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas. Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
> graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
> the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
> for the Mid Atlantic Region. Encouraged by the love of her husband
> and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
> adversity was an inspiration to all. Other women facing the battle
> should embrace her courage.
> She is survived by her devoted husband Edward L. Johnson
> her parents <snip: list of parents and five siblings and their
> families, funeral home, viewing time and mass of christian burial,
> etc. etc>
> In lieu of flowers contributions in her memory may be made to the
> Maxmin Memorial Fund, Room C223, Fox Chase Cancer, 7701 Burholme
> Ave, Phila.,PA, 19111 or
> Cancer Research Foundation of North Texas, 900 West Randol Mill
> Rd.,Suite 204, Arlington, Texas 76012
>
> ***********************************************
> Few cobbers got to meet Sue: JT and Christine, `rita, bytor and
> Julie Caligaro.
>
> Ed J
>
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Article 21053
From: JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 23:45:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Ed,
I am so very sorry. It was a pleasure to have met SueEllen and I have
always been honored that you used part of your anniversary trip to
meet Christine & I, and that she was a good enough sport to go along
with it.
Our thoughts will be with you in this hard time.
JT
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Article 21054
From: Ed Johnson
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:55:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
JT: Sue knew how highly I thought of you and wanted to meet my
'computer friends' <g>. Our visit with you and Christine is part of
my collection of 'happy memories' that will help me through rough
times ahead.
Ed J
On Fri, 03 May 2002 23:45:58 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:
>Ed,
>I am so very sorry. It was a pleasure to have met SueEllen and I have
>always been honored that you used part of your anniversary trip to
>meet Christine & I, and that she was a good enough sport to go along
>with it.
>
>Our thoughts will be with you in this hard time.
>
>JT
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Article 21055
From: Bill Dauphin
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 00:16:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
On 5/1/02 10:14 PM, in article o471dug57eke7pleptk5jb209ebumabedo@4ax.com,
"Ed Johnson" <eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net> wrote:
> To all my good Heinlein friends:
> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
>
> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas.
I'm so sorry to get this news. Add my hug to the pile you've already
received.
-JovBill
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Article 21056
From: fader555@aol.com (Fader)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 11:18:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
On Wed, 01 May 2002 22:14:51 -0400, Ed Johnson
<eljohn2@comcast.spamthis.net > wrote:
Our sincerest condolences,
Best Wishes & hugs(from Beth)
Fader & Beth
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Article 21057
From: CSTilden@yahoo.com (Christine Simoes Tilden)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 18:04:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
Oh Ed I am so sad to hear this news. I am glad I got to meet her that
day. I could tell she was such a sweet person! Please accept our
heartfelt sympathy for your loss.
(((hugs)))
On Fri, 03 May 2002 23:45:58 GMT, JT@REM0VE.sff.net (JT) wrote:
>Ed,
>I am so very sorry. It was a pleasure to have met SueEllen and I have
>always been honored that you used part of your anniversary trip to
>meet Christine & I, and that she was a good enough sport to go along
>with it.
>
>Our thoughts will be with you in this hard time.
>
>JT
>
Christine Simoes Tilden
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Article 21058
From: Audrey
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 12:38:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Mara Progress Report
Newsgroups: sff.discuss.heinlein-forum
I am so sorry. You are in my prayers.
Ed Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:39:18 -0500, Charles Graft
> <chasgraft@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Ed--
> > I can't begin to express how sorry I am to hear this and I wish you
> >all the luck and prayers I have available.
> Thanks for your kind words, Charlie.
>
> To all my good Heinlein friends:
> My wife's sisters whipped up this for various newspapers :
>
> Sue Ellen Johnson, Esquire, of Hainesport NJ,
> devoted and beloved wife, daughter, sister and friend, lost her
> battle with breast cancer on April 29, 2002 at Arlington Memorial
> Hospital, in Arlington, Texas. Sue was born on Aug 22, 1954. She
> graduated from Holy Cross College and Villanova University. She was
> the Regional General Attorney for Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
> for the Mid Atlantic Region. Encouraged by the love of her husband
> and family, Sue's strength and determination in the face of
> adversity was an inspiration to all. Other women facing the battle
> should embrace her courage.
> She is survived by her devoted husband Edward L. Johnson
> her parents <snip: list of parents and five siblings and their
> families, funeral home, viewing time and mass of christian burial,
> etc. etc>
> In lieu of flowers contributions in her memory may be made to the
> Maxmin Memorial Fund, Room C223, Fox Chase Cancer, 7701 Burholme
> Ave, Phila.,PA, 19111 or
> Cancer Research Foundation of North Texas, 900 West Randol Mill
> Rd.,Suite 204, Arlington, Texas 76012
>
> ***********************************************
> Few cobbers got to meet Sue: JT and Christine, `rita, bytor and
> Julie Caligaro.
>
> Ed J
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